will not negotiate with john boehner, the president will not meet with john boehner, and john boehner is actually trying to be responsible here. >> john boehner does not agree with you, john boehner does not want to shut down, does not want to take this stand. >> you're saying i don't want to shut down the government. >> the speaker of the house is actually not interested in trying to filet up obama care right now as you are, he has a different view. >> i disagree with him, i thought this was the moment to do it, not have the fight. >> so what is the end game, congressman? are you willing to vote for a continuing resolution that comes back that does not delay or de-fund obama care? >> i am not, but i think there are enough people in the republican party willing to do that. that is what i think you will see, the first request was to completely de-fund the program. and we knew we were going to lose on that, now we're asking for a delay, which again, i don't think is an unreasonable thing to do. you know, your boss, tip o'neill, shut down the government 12 times and you didn't call him a terrorist.